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Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:33 pm
by nmnray
Has anyone checked to see the cost of the Telomere therapy from BioViva? 
 

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:40 pm
by CeeJayBee
I haven't heard of them until now.

But this list is very affordable and studies have shown them to work. I had a quick peak at a BioViva site. They seem to offer a DNA again kit. I am not sure how accurate these tests are. I think that some forum members may have had similar tests done.

What might interest me is a way to address bioavailability for these substances, like SL or Liposomal.




 

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:48 pm
by nmnray
I think you missed it. It's the Telomere gene edit. A one-time procedure.

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:47 pm
by canadahealthy
nmnray wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:48 pm I think you missed it. It's the Telomere gene edit. A one-time procedure.

 
Whoa! I'll wait for the first 10,000 trials.

But imagine that.

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:11 pm
by rhett
It seems that NAD+ supplementation does help prevent the runaway feedback loop of bad things that short telomeres cause. Usually short telomeres cause lack of nad+ and lack of nad+ then shortens the telomeres even more. But supplementation short circuits that process and allows the telomeres to function as if they were younger/longer. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32935380/
Re-equilibration of imbalanced NAD metabolism ameliorates the impact of telomere dysfunction

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:26 pm
by nmnray
canadahealthy wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:47 pm
nmnray wrote: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:48 pm I think you missed it. It's the Telomere gene edit. A one-time procedure.


 
Whoa! I'll wait for the first 10,000 trials.

But imagine that.

 
yeah, kind of scary.

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:31 pm
by nmnray
rhett wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:11 pm It seems that NAD+ supplementation does help prevent the runaway feedback loop of bad things that short telomeres cause. Usually short telomeres cause lack of nad+ and lack of nad+ then shortens the telomeres even more. But supplementation short circuits that process and allows the telomeres to function as if they were younger/longer. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32935380/
Re-equilibration of imbalanced NAD metabolism ameliorates the impact of telomere dysfunction
Not sure how much good it does for short Telomers. NAD+ doesn't enable short Telomeres to once again fold over and activate genes. They need to be lengthened for that to happen.

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:43 pm
by rhett
From what i understand it may not lengthen telomeres directly, but it prevents many of the problems that having short telomeres cause. And because of that, nad prevents the downward spiral where short telomeres cause damage which shortens them even more. 

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:50 pm
by nmnray
rhett wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:43 pm From what i understand it may not lengthen telomeres directly, but it prevents many of the problems that having short telomeres cause. And because of that, nad prevents the downward spiral where short telomeres cause damage which shortens them even more. 

 
That would be good for sure.

Re: Telomeres; let's make a master list

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:51 am
by Newage
A lot of guess work at this stage but hopefully we all benefit from the outcome..
No sickness to speak about with me for over 12 months now thanks to AliveByScience and their products.
Just on 70 years old so I’m pretty happy about that.. :lol: